FAQ
Why aren't the washers connected to the wing nuts? It would make it a truly one-handed maneuver instead of two, especially on the top screw.
If you have the top bolt in the "retracted" position before attaching, the maneuver can be just that. Let the bolt slide all the way out to the outside of the shell. Then close the hanger with one hand, pull out the bolt and slip it in the washer well.
Why are the bottom bolts so long? They could probably be half the height. They look like they're for someone with 10" girth.
To give room to run out the wing nuts and to make adjustments to the adjustment nuts easier. It was designed to accommodate an 8+ inch girth.
The top bolt seems to be missing something: the pivot seems like it will destroy the plastic over time. Did the early testers experience this? Did they have the same injection molded plastic?
I probably did not trim it closely enough. The bolt should not touch the soft plastic. It should be close, but it shouldn't touch. Don't worry, it should just grind off with no problems.
I'm still having the same problem as with my homemade BibHangers. My penis is being pulled straight down, but the head angles up about 10 degrees. It's like the hangers pull at the middle of my shaft, so the head rises up. It's kind of hard to explain, but it may be no big deal. I was just wondering if that was sounded familiar.
It was designed to pull from the middle and to allow the head to rise slightly. Also, the head should naturally come up some. That is preferable to down--and looks better IMO.
The padding seems like it won't last, but I'll be careful and hopefully it will. Is it cast so that I can buy some more padding?
The padding should be held in place mainly by pressure. You have to be sure you have tightened the hanger enough to accommodate the amount of weight to be hung. It should allow for mistakes because it tends to want to be pulled back under weight strain, and the major anchors are at the front. This beats the other types of padding I tried, and I tried many. Padding by its very nature is subject to depreciation. But this should last for years if not abused. Also, as time goes on, it will get slightly tougher.
The padding is applied as a liquid at 350 degrees. You can send it in and I can replace it. Don't know about cost.
Where can I order Theraband?
We now offer Theraband! You can also get it from: ScripHessco.
Remember, the purpose of the wrap is to gather the skin, for some protection, and to give a good, slightly firm septum to which the hanger can be attached. It will also take the first line of pressure from the weight. What you want is something easy to handle, cheap or washable, easy on the skin, non-abrasive, and slightly elastic.
I used the black, which is the next to the heaviest grade, for most of my hanging. It was just what I had available, and it was very good. Until recently, I thought it was the heaviest.
When Phat bought his, he was kind enough to send it to me so I could get what I needed. Then I sent the remainder to him. This is silver and is quite a bit heavier than the black. I think it will be much better.
It still allows for forming to your skin as latex will, but it is very tough, easy to adjust for tightness, and goes on quickly. It does need a dusting of talcum powder fairly often to prevent sticking to skin.
I tried any number of different types of wrap when I began to hang. There was a great range of comfort. Theraband by itself was the best all-around for me. Quick to put on and good comfort. I use the silver Theraband for all my Uli work now.
As far as straight comfort, I liked to double-wrap. I would do this after a long hanging day when the skin was sore, or anytime I had skin discomfort. First, wrap with a light sweatshirt type material. Not the thick kind. This material breaths, is soft and slightly elastic. I would wrap once lightly with this. Then over the top with a thin layer of Theraband. The skin would be very comfortable, and the Theraband bonds well to the hanger and the sweatshirt material.
Probably the optimum skill in wrapping is finding the correct degree of tightness of the wrap. I found, for me, the best is to only wrap tight enough to keep the protection in place and give a semi-soft area to attach. With either hanger, the softer, more pliable the wrapped penis, the better grip the bib can achieve.
For speed and ease in handling, I always cut any wrap material into 1.5" x 15-18 " strips. The cloth I just rolled up and cut with good scissors.
I get a skin irritation above the wrap toward the head after hanging for a while. Is there any way to avoid this?
There are several reasons for this particular skin soreness. One of the following will probably cover it.
If you stay wrapped for too long a period of time, or you Uli or jelq a lot before hanging, you may have fluid buildup in the skin near the head. When you try to hang, this fluid becomes highly compressed within the folds of skin and is very irritating. This is one reason to only lightly milk between sets, not wrap too tight or for too long, and definitely do not pump or Uli or milk before hanging.
Next it could be friction from very slight slippage from using heavy weight. You actually may find it more comfortable tightening the hanger more.
Make sure your wrap is not a course material, but rather extremely soft and elastic.
Next, there will always be a certain amount of friction in this area when using heavy weight. The shaft cannot support 15 pounds alone. The sides of the head will have to take some. I find a light coating of oil based vitamin E lotion helps. Just rub it on the head and exposed skin but don't rub it in too much. This will allow the skin to slide against itself with less friction as the weight is applied.
Then, of course, if the wrap is too tight, that can cause soreness too. As you know, the hanger works by opposing pressure, much like the thumb and forefinger, only over a larger surface area. It works best if the wrap is loose enough to compress the penis without the exposed wrap (toward the head) becoming tight when the hanger is tightened completely. IOW, this area will become tighter than just the normal wrapping tightness when the hanger pressure is applied. Also, when the weight is applied, this area will become tighter still as the hanger and weight bunch the internal structures toward the head. This has the effect of making the WRAP the first part of the hanger to accept the force of the weight, which changes the physics completely and almost makes it into a noose type hanger. Make sure the wrap is not too tight, and that it is elastic enough to give under the pressure.
Do not use extra wrap. The more wrap, the less likely the hanger will work properly and the more likely you will experience slipping and therefore friction. Soma tells me he is actually hanging comfortably without wrap. Unbelievable. My head is not that big. Once again, however, we can see the wide range of possibilities that individual anatomies give us.
Should I feel a pull/stretch in the area around the base? Or the area in my pubes near my base? Or in my cock itself (because I felt it there with the other hanger at 15lbs)? Where do I really want to feel it? Currently, when I laugh, cough or sneeze I feel it in the area around my pubes…
This depends on how advanced you are at the various angles. Are you hanging BTC (between the cheeks)? This is where you are in a chair, scooted down with your butt over the edge and your feet on another chair. This usually takes a while to achieve. Each day, just scoot down in the chair a little more. In this position, you will not only feel it in the base, but all the way into your abs. In this position, you can also do lower ab crunches, which is a whole different experience.
If you are hanging across the legs, then you will feel it on each side of the base. Over the shoulder, you will feel it behind your balls and the underside of the shaft. Straight out, over the edge of the chair, you will feel it in the shaft. You can use a much higher weight for this. Matter of fact, you should be using a different weight for each angle. Some angles have a friction loss, and some the anatomy can handle more.
How do you tear a thick phone book in half? One page at a time.
When using the hanger, I've noticed in my case I have to open up the end near my head while tightening the end near the base. The base is wider than near the head. I do this because the pressure builds up. Is this to be expected? Or is this an adjustment problem on my part?
I assume you mean the pressure builds up in the head. This means you do not have the hanger tight enough or it means the wrap is too tight, or you do not have the hanger far enough from the head. It is not unusual to require the hanger to toe-out. This should put more pressure on the shaft, and less on the head. But the hanger needs to be tight enough to keep the hanger from sliding down on the head completely. It should rest on either side of the head but in the meatus, not the actual head.
I'm now hanging 15lbs. very comfortably compared to my other homemade bib hanger, but I have noticed that after about 12 to 15 minutes the pressure in my head begins to get very high, while there's no pain whatsoever in my skin from the weight. (This morning after I took the hanger off, the circumcision scar area on the underside of my cock was almost black (which went away with 10min of jelqing). I expect you to say I've got it too tight, but I feel like it's gonna fall off with that weight.) Can I expect this pressure to intensify as I go up in weight? Or is this an adjustment problem on my part?
I probably need to adjust the hanger, which I have, but each weight was uncomfortable at first--then after a few adjustments: perfect! I've read the adjustment sections on your site 4 or 5 times, and maybe I'm still in the experimental stages, but if I'm making an obvious mistake, I want to know it.
I can tell you right now, you will need to do some more adjusting. You must realize, you found one really comfortable setting, and seem to be sticking with it. That's wrong. Just remember that setting, and then go about making changes, one at a time, and see how other things feel. How big is your top gap compared to the bottom gap? What are you using for wrap? How much wrap? How tight is the wrap?
The black underside actually shows the hanger is not tight enough. The hanger works on high and low areas of pressure which allow for circulation. If it is not tight enough, the hanger slides down a lot and puts pressure on the head, capturing blood that is forced into the skin giving this appearance. It can also occur by the wrap being too tight disallowing blood flow. The wrap should be just tight enough to stay on and elastic enough to give when the hanger is tightened and the weight applied. Make sure the hanger takes the majority of the weight and not the wrap.
Remember, when the weight is applied, the stretch in the shaft will make it become slightly smaller. You have to allow for this when tightening before adding the weight or just after adding the weight. Try tightening until it is a little uncomfortable, then add the weight and see if the discomfort goes away. Or tighten more while slowly letting the weight down.
There should not be a lot of head pressure, especially at 15 pounds.
The hanger moves with the wrapping and ends up covering the head. I hang mostly between the cheeks (BTC) right now. I feel the tension in what I believe is the ligs and up into the abdomen. This is what Bib describes you should feel for BTC sets. The question I have is that when I take the hanger off and unwrap a lot of times there is a lot of skin covering the head. Is this OK? I am not feeling any pressure in the head, nor do I feel what I consider pulling the skin, but it seems to me that the head should act as kind of an anchor point for the hanger to slide down to and rest. Does anyone that attaches the hanger further from the head then Bib's site suggest also experience this?
The hanger and wrap should not slide down all the way over the head. The front thumbs of the hanger should "anchor" behind the sides of the head.
You probably just do not have the hanger tight enough. If the adjustments are in all the way, just use more wrap. Try a strip of sweatshirt material with Theraband over the top of that.
I have hung with the hanger attached 2-3 inches from the head. Even with a lot of weight, it will not slide down that far if tightened enough.
After the weight is applied, don't forget to tighten further. The stretch will make the shaft a little smaller when under stress, so you must tighten a little more.
It is a difficult equation, but think about this. Generally as weight goes up, blood flow goes down. As tightness of the wrap goes up, blood flow goes down. As amount of wrap goes up, blood flow goes down. As the hanger is tightened, blood flow stays fairly constant. As the hanger slides down to the head, blood flow goes down to the head. The tighter the hanger, the less sliding down to the head.
Keep the hanger well above the head by tightening, and you will have more blood flow, no matter the other circumstances.
I've noticed that hanging weights in different directions limits the amount of weight and causes stresses that are unique for that "posture."
Currently, I only have the time and energy to hang 5 days per week and then for only 3 sets of 20 minutes and yet my ligs in my pubic area and the main lig in my cock are sore. That being the case, what would give me the best/most efficient workout for such a limited schedule? Right now I hang for 2 sets of 20 minutes (16 lbs.) straight down and 1 set of 20 minutes (10 lbs.) BTC (between the cheeks).
I also have a question about how a certain hang directions stress my member. Let's say I was going to hang a certain way, and only that way, for the next year what would my results probably be? What would happen if I hung only straight down while standing every time? What would happen if I hung over the shoulder every time? What would happen if I hung only between the cheeks every time?
There are several ways to look at these questions. One is the practical day-to-day occurrences. Another is the physical changes. Then there are the straight engineering factors. All have to be considered.
Think of the pubic area from a strictly engineering point of view. The tunica, which surrounds the blood cavities, is very tough (hard rubber) and long. It is anchored in the body, close to the prostate. There are different amounts of penis, and therefore tunica held within the body. This is held in by the ligaments attached to the pubic bone (fan shaped) and the tunica on the shaft. Almost like a boom on a crane when erect. The ligaments are like rope bundles. Some of the strands are long, and some shorter. The shorter the fiber, the more stress that fiber takes in an erection. The penis is anchored firmly within the body.
Also in the system are blood vessels (plumbing) and nerves (communications). The goal is to pull out as much tunica as is possible (easy, fast gains) by stretching the ligaments, and also to stretch the tunica and associated structures (harder gains). These other structures, CC, CS, blood vessels, nerves, skin, etc, all are easily stretched. The limiting factors are the tunica and ligaments.
Another goal is to stretch the tough infrastructure without damaging the plumbing or communications. The blood vessels are tough (tear resistant) but easily stretched. The only problem associated with them is the fact that they become narrower as they are stretched, thereby limiting blood flow. The nerves are easily stretched and also easily broken, but also easily regenerated over time. One good reason for taking things slow is to give the nerves time to regenerate. As long as there are small gaps or tears in the nerves, they have no problem rebuilding. When the gaps become large is when a person experiences a loss of feeling.
The tunica is fairly consistent, tough, and slow to stretch. It takes time and perseverance.
The ligs vary in toughness. You may have several short but thin fibers, which are easily broken and/or stretched. This will give fast gains. Or you may have short thick fibers, which are hard to break or stretch immediately (tough gainers). Once these short thick fibers are broken, gains may be easy. Then later, the longer fibers come into play. Or I should say, as the shorter ones are broken or stretched, the longer ones increasingly come into play. As time goes on, more and more fibers are involved at the same time during the stretch. Short ones break or stretch, and the next shortest take more of the load. This is why gains eventually slow down for everyone.
This is also one reason why it takes increasingly higher weights to achieve gains. It is also why some people talk about the ligs becoming tougher. They are somewhat tougher, because they become thicker as they heal. But more than that, each fiber becomes more equal with the other fibers as time goes on, they increasingly resist the stretch in harmony. Then, you must become more refined in his attack. Vary the angles even more. For example: After hanging for several months, a good stress is to hang under each leg, over the side edge of the chair while seated in an almost BTC position. This greatly stresses each SIDE of the ligament bundle, dividing and conquering. Then, a normal BTC hang will stress the MIDDLE of the bundle. The sides are already longer from the side stretch. So the middle then has to take the load. This is just one example.
Each micron of gain is dependent upon breaking the next limiting factor. That next limiting factor may be large or small. This is an argument for going up in weight quickly. Break or stretch each limiting factor before the preceding limiting factor has time to heal and become tougher. But it is a balancing act between gaining and being safe. The relative soreness or fatigue in an area is an indication of what has transpired. If you are very sore in an area, you have pushed it far enough. You need to work on another area for a while (a day or two).
Changes in the limiting factors are also a reason you have to go down in weight from time to time. Your current limiting factor may be one or more tough thick ligament fibers for example. Then, as your maximum weight goes up, one day these fibers fail. When they do, you achieve gains, but also incur the next limiting factors. These next limiting factors may be thinner or fewer and require somewhat less weight to break or stretch. That is why from time to time, you just cannot hang the maximum, at a certain angle, that you could previously.
Look at a broad example: You have the tunica hanging straight down. Then on top of that, the ligs are attached, also hanging straight down. Now apply a stress to them. Which structures take the stress first? It depends on their individual lengths. For most (if not all), it is the bundle of ligaments. The shorter ones first. So when hanging straight down or BTC, the tunica may not be affected at all, taking none of the stress. Only the ligaments. Now, as the angle rises, say to hanging straight out, the ligaments take less and less stress and the tunica takes more and more stress. So then when hanging straight up (over the shoulder), most (if not all) will have all the stress on the tunica and the anchor points within the body, and none on the ligaments. Further, hanging over the legs will stress the sides of the tunica, and the anchor points within the body on each side.
The tunica and each individual fiber of the ligaments all have different load capacities. All are subject to a maximum load factor, above which they fail. When they fail, they either stretch or are broken. In either case, the body subsequently repairs them. This repair time varies between fibers and individuals. The key is to control the damage done to the structures and allow time for repair. In order to do this most efficiently, the best way would be one at a time. This is not possible, but the varying angles of stress will allow the most efficient method of stressing individual fibers and therefore achieving the goals.
So now we know the problems and what needs to be done. How is the best way to go about it? It depends on the individual and what has transpired before. If you are very sore in the pubic bone area (the ligaments), it is time to work on the tunica and anchor points. This means over the shoulder and legs or straight out, 90 degrees from the body. If the tunica (shaft) and area above the testicles is sore, it is time for straight down or BTC.
The above is very generalized. There are subcategories of stresses that can be applied to give the most efficient types of work.
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